thanks for posting - it's always helpful when people take the time to write their solutions to problems - guaranteed someone else has run into the same issues. I have a couple of sites I want to add captchas to (ringbacks is one of them), but before that I needed to figure out how to get captchas on my webforms - I found the config options ok, but just can't get them to show up. At least your post has given me a few more things to try ...